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		<title>By: Steve Stran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Stran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought an Acer 9410 in 2007 with Vista 32bit.I recently accuried a 64 bit Vista Ultimate.I replaced the hard drive and have 2 gigs of ram.When tring to install the 64 bit it sent a message saying &quot;system wont support Vista 64bit.Is it because of divers,what do I need to to do to get the computer to accept the 64 bit Operationg system.The Acer has a Duo core 186 Intel processor.Please help if you can....Thanx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought an Acer 9410 in 2007 with Vista 32bit.I recently accuried a 64 bit Vista Ultimate.I replaced the hard drive and have 2 gigs of ram.When tring to install the 64 bit it sent a message saying &#8220;system wont support Vista 64bit.Is it because of divers,what do I need to to do to get the computer to accept the 64 bit Operationg system.The Acer has a Duo core 186 Intel processor.Please help if you can&#8230;.Thanx</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good example of plain english. Keep up the good work.

Regards
Raymond</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good example of plain english. Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Raymond</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Question regarding windows 7/Vista and mobility modder..</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Question regarding windows 7/Vista and mobility modder..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] regarding windows 7/Vista and mobility modder..     i read here,   4sysops - Vista x64 vs. Vista x86 - 32 bit or 64 bit Vista edition?   that with 64 bit OS&#039;s u cannot instally unsigned drivers. I thought that the modded drivers are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mirec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mirec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, i am using x64bit vista and have no problems, with programs or drivers, till now I discovered only 3-4 games that are not working on x64 vista, even the 32bit programs works great.
I think the virtualisation is also present, because some games need to save the profiles of the player in c:/program files and without permission u can not do that. the program will use the hidden folder for example &quot;C:\Users\%YourUser%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Activision\Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare\players\profiles\&quot; to save the necessary info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, i am using x64bit vista and have no problems, with programs or drivers, till now I discovered only 3-4 games that are not working on x64 vista, even the 32bit programs works great.<br />
I think the virtualisation is also present, because some games need to save the profiles of the player in c:/program files and without permission u can not do that. the program will use the hidden folder for example &#8220;C:\Users\%YourUser%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Activision\Call of Duty 4 &#8211; Modern Warfare\players\profiles\&#8221; to save the necessary info</p>
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		<title>By: ¿Vale la pena instalar un sistema operativo de 64 bits? &#124; Incognitosis</title>
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		<dc:creator>¿Vale la pena instalar un sistema operativo de 64 bits? &#124; Incognitosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] encontrado son este artículo de Phoronix(algo antiguo), que lo hizo hace tiempo con Ubuntu, y este fantástico análisis de 4sysops que compara Vista x86 (32 bits) con Vista x64 (64 bits) y en el que concluye que en la mayoría de [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Covenant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Covenant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello

I was wondering about this too and used google for more info and there&#039;s a lot to find about this subject.
At the end, those articles / postings of people who compared 32-bit and 64-bit OS in real life (not in theory) and experienced with the 64-bit OS: 

1. driver issues have been resolved by now,
2. it is able to address RAM above 4GB and, 
3. it even feels faster, subjective

These were enough reasons for me to chose the 64 over 32 version.

One side note ... you think 4GB is more than enough ?
Haha, I remember the time when Microsoft said &quot;640 KB are more than you&#039;ll ever need&quot;, resulting in the pre-historic burden many generations of PCs carried forward.
We don&#039;t need that shit again.

64-bit .... that&#039;s it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello</p>
<p>I was wondering about this too and used google for more info and there&#8217;s a lot to find about this subject.<br />
At the end, those articles / postings of people who compared 32-bit and 64-bit OS in real life (not in theory) and experienced with the 64-bit OS: </p>
<p>1. driver issues have been resolved by now,<br />
2. it is able to address RAM above 4GB and,<br />
3. it even feels faster, subjective</p>
<p>These were enough reasons for me to chose the 64 over 32 version.</p>
<p>One side note &#8230; you think 4GB is more than enough ?<br />
Haha, I remember the time when Microsoft said &#8220;640 KB are more than you&#8217;ll ever need&#8221;, resulting in the pre-historic burden many generations of PCs carried forward.<br />
We don&#8217;t need that shit again.</p>
<p>64-bit &#8230;. that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: AntSmt</title>
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		<dc:creator>AntSmt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Peter

I saw your system on Newegg.
Quite decent system for doing anything on workstation.
I hope that it isn&#039;t disturbingly noisy as it is a major brand made which is good on efficient thermal discharging.



to chinchin85

Server OSes are more stable than desktop counterparts but Server 2008 has no support for BDA architecture which is new defacto architecture for DVBs TV card drivers. Porting BDA from Vista to WS2K8 doesn&#039;t worked for Technisat Skystar 2 card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Peter</p>
<p>I saw your system on Newegg.<br />
Quite decent system for doing anything on workstation.<br />
I hope that it isn&#8217;t disturbingly noisy as it is a major brand made which is good on efficient thermal discharging.</p>
<p>to chinchin85</p>
<p>Server OSes are more stable than desktop counterparts but Server 2008 has no support for BDA architecture which is new defacto architecture for DVBs TV card drivers. Porting BDA from Vista to WS2K8 doesn&#8217;t worked for Technisat Skystar 2 card.</p>
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		<title>By: chinchin85</title>
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		<dc:creator>chinchin85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Windows Server 2008 HPC Edition(x64) on my laptop.In my experience its the best OS Microsoft has released so far.Its very stable and is significantly faster than Vista 32 bit editions which I have used(Home Premium and Ultimate).If anyone wants to go for Vista I recommend him to get
Server 2008(either x86 or x64) or HPC edition(only x64) like what I have done.The Server OSes are really &quot;optimized Vistas&quot; and they are how Vista should have actually been.

Driver Support:Most of the Vista x64 drivers work on WS2008 HPC.I dont use Printers and scanners so no comments about the driver support here.Some 32 bit apps like Nero Burning Rom have certain problems in working,but other 32 bit apps work perfectly fine.

Virtualisation softwares work perfectly.PC Games(both DX9 and DX10) also run really fine,some games even better than XP32 and Vista32.Memory Management is really a plus point of this OS.

So in my opinion dont go for Vista32 or 64,instead get WS2008(x64),convert it into a Workstation OS and feel the difference.........and dont forget to get more than 4G ram.

dell vostro 1500
2 gigs 667 mhz ram
nvidia geforce 8400m gs 128mb
intel t5470 core2duo 1.6 ghz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Windows Server 2008 HPC Edition(x64) on my laptop.In my experience its the best OS Microsoft has released so far.Its very stable and is significantly faster than Vista 32 bit editions which I have used(Home Premium and Ultimate).If anyone wants to go for Vista I recommend him to get<br />
Server 2008(either x86 or x64) or HPC edition(only x64) like what I have done.The Server OSes are really &#8220;optimized Vistas&#8221; and they are how Vista should have actually been.</p>
<p>Driver Support:Most of the Vista x64 drivers work on WS2008 HPC.I dont use Printers and scanners so no comments about the driver support here.Some 32 bit apps like Nero Burning Rom have certain problems in working,but other 32 bit apps work perfectly fine.</p>
<p>Virtualisation softwares work perfectly.PC Games(both DX9 and DX10) also run really fine,some games even better than XP32 and Vista32.Memory Management is really a plus point of this OS.</p>
<p>So in my opinion dont go for Vista32 or 64,instead get WS2008(x64),convert it into a Workstation OS and feel the difference&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and dont forget to get more than 4G ram.</p>
<p>dell vostro 1500<br />
2 gigs 667 mhz ram<br />
nvidia geforce 8400m gs 128mb<br />
intel t5470 core2duo 1.6 ghz</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is outdated at this point in time - December 2008 as I am writing this.  Compatibility issues have faded as most of the hardware that didn&#039;t support 64-bit is reaching the end of it&#039;s lifespan anyways.  Most PC hardware and peripherals produced since Vista was released support Vista 64.  

The biggest problem is printers and scanners, since many older models are still in use at offices everywhere. Scanners can last a very long time and new drivers are rarely released.  Because of this, most of the non-64bit compatible hardware doesn&#039;t work in any version of Vista anyways.  The good news is that printers and scanners are cheaply available and can just be replaced when going to Vista64.

If Vista follows similar path to XP &amp; Win2k, it will effectively require more and more RAM as updates and service packs are released.  Getting Vista 32-bit doesn&#039;t leave much headroom for that. It takes at least 2GB of RAM to make it run well currently, and only supports a maximum of around 3.5GB.  If it grows by 50% or more, like XP has (remember when XP only needed 512MB RAM to be fast?) it&#039;ll need 4GB in another year or two.

All that said...  I&#039;d recommend anyone installing Vista on a new machine should use Vista64 and as much RAM as their machine supports.  Vista64 is actually a completely different operating system than Vista 32-bit and seems to run a lot faster and smoother in my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is outdated at this point in time &#8211; December 2008 as I am writing this.  Compatibility issues have faded as most of the hardware that didn&#8217;t support 64-bit is reaching the end of it&#8217;s lifespan anyways.  Most PC hardware and peripherals produced since Vista was released support Vista 64.  </p>
<p>The biggest problem is printers and scanners, since many older models are still in use at offices everywhere. Scanners can last a very long time and new drivers are rarely released.  Because of this, most of the non-64bit compatible hardware doesn&#8217;t work in any version of Vista anyways.  The good news is that printers and scanners are cheaply available and can just be replaced when going to Vista64.</p>
<p>If Vista follows similar path to XP &amp; Win2k, it will effectively require more and more RAM as updates and service packs are released.  Getting Vista 32-bit doesn&#8217;t leave much headroom for that. It takes at least 2GB of RAM to make it run well currently, and only supports a maximum of around 3.5GB.  If it grows by 50% or more, like XP has (remember when XP only needed 512MB RAM to be fast?) it&#8217;ll need 4GB in another year or two.</p>
<p>All that said&#8230;  I&#8217;d recommend anyone installing Vista on a new machine should use Vista64 and as much RAM as their machine supports.  Vista64 is actually a completely different operating system than Vista 32-bit and seems to run a lot faster and smoother in my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is outdated at this point in time - December 2008 as I am writing this.  Compatibility issues have faded as most of the hardware that didn&#039;t support 64-bit is reaching the end of it&#039;s lifespan anyways.  Most PC hardware and peripherals produced since Vista was released support Vista 64.  

The biggest problem is printers and scanners, since many older models are still in use at offices everywhere. Scanners can last a very long time and new drivers are rarely released.  Because of this, most of the non-64bit compatible hardware doesn&#039;t work in any version of Vista anyways.  The good news is that printers and scanners are cheaply available and can just be replaced when going to Vista64.

If Vista follows similar path to XP &amp; Win2k, it will effectively require more and more RAM as updates and service packs are released.  Getting Vista 32-bit doesn&#039;t leave much headroom for that. It takes at least 2GB of RAM to make it run well currently, and only supports a maximum of around 3.5GB.  If it grows by 50% or more, like XP has (remember when XP only needed 512MB RAM to be fast?)

All that said...  I&#039;d recommend anyone installing Vista on a new machine should use Vista64 and as much RAM as their machine supports.  Vista64 is actually a completely different operating system than Vista 32-bit and seems to run a lot faster and smoother in my experience</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is outdated at this point in time &#8211; December 2008 as I am writing this.  Compatibility issues have faded as most of the hardware that didn&#8217;t support 64-bit is reaching the end of it&#8217;s lifespan anyways.  Most PC hardware and peripherals produced since Vista was released support Vista 64.  </p>
<p>The biggest problem is printers and scanners, since many older models are still in use at offices everywhere. Scanners can last a very long time and new drivers are rarely released.  Because of this, most of the non-64bit compatible hardware doesn&#8217;t work in any version of Vista anyways.  The good news is that printers and scanners are cheaply available and can just be replaced when going to Vista64.</p>
<p>If Vista follows similar path to XP &amp; Win2k, it will effectively require more and more RAM as updates and service packs are released.  Getting Vista 32-bit doesn&#8217;t leave much headroom for that. It takes at least 2GB of RAM to make it run well currently, and only supports a maximum of around 3.5GB.  If it grows by 50% or more, like XP has (remember when XP only needed 512MB RAM to be fast?)</p>
<p>All that said&#8230;  I&#8217;d recommend anyone installing Vista on a new machine should use Vista64 and as much RAM as their machine supports.  Vista64 is actually a completely different operating system than Vista 32-bit and seems to run a lot faster and smoother in my experience</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Switched from Win 2k to Vista 64! 
HP m9360f
Q9300 (2.5)
8 GB
nVidia 9800GT (512)
Performance is amazing. No driver issues so far. Haven&#039;t tested all peripherals as yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switched from Win 2k to Vista 64!<br />
HP m9360f<br />
Q9300 (2.5)<br />
8 GB<br />
nVidia 9800GT (512)<br />
Performance is amazing. No driver issues so far. Haven&#8217;t tested all peripherals as yet.</p>
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		<title>By: AntSmt</title>
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		<dc:creator>AntSmt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi cindi,
First, with 8 GiB of memory you should definetly go for 64-bit editions because 32-bit OSes have 4 GiB direct addressability limit.

If all of your hardware and peripherals have signed drivers you won&#039;t have any mojor drawback to mention. 32-bit emulation of 64-bit MS OSes are robust and efficient. Some 32-bit software that has 16-bit deployer may pose a temporary problem during installation until any workaround possibly there available.

Ultimate edition has nearly double the price of Home Premium. Compare editions below and consider if ultimate edition&#039;s differences that you need worths the money. If you require Bitlocker Drive Encryption is maybe only reliable difference I can report.

Ithink it is clear that third party media and virtualization softwares are far more successful and efficient than those vista has integrated inside.

If it is a new custom system you may consider having a recent CPU that has a large cache at least 6 MiB cache and 1333 Mhz bus speed that has good price/performance ratio. If it is a mobile system I recommend T9300 CPU at least.

Bye

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista_editions
http://www.powerdonkey.net/signup3.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi cindi,<br />
First, with 8 GiB of memory you should definetly go for 64-bit editions because 32-bit OSes have 4 GiB direct addressability limit.</p>
<p>If all of your hardware and peripherals have signed drivers you won&#8217;t have any mojor drawback to mention. 32-bit emulation of 64-bit MS OSes are robust and efficient. Some 32-bit software that has 16-bit deployer may pose a temporary problem during installation until any workaround possibly there available.</p>
<p>Ultimate edition has nearly double the price of Home Premium. Compare editions below and consider if ultimate edition&#8217;s differences that you need worths the money. If you require Bitlocker Drive Encryption is maybe only reliable difference I can report.</p>
<p>Ithink it is clear that third party media and virtualization softwares are far more successful and efficient than those vista has integrated inside.</p>
<p>If it is a new custom system you may consider having a recent CPU that has a large cache at least 6 MiB cache and 1333 Mhz bus speed that has good price/performance ratio. If it is a mobile system I recommend T9300 CPU at least.</p>
<p>Bye</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista_editions" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista_editions</a><br />
<a href="http://www.powerdonkey.net/signup3.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.powerdonkey.net/signup3.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: cindi</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help!  I have a custom built system with 8gig of ram but when I ordered the system I accidently chose the 32 bit Vista home premium not the 64 bit version.  I haven&#039;t even turned the system on yet but before I do.. should I get the 64 bit home premium or upgrade to the ultimate 64 bit ?
what are the drawbacks to leaving in the 32bit?  will it really not recognize all the ram? 
thanks for the help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help!  I have a custom built system with 8gig of ram but when I ordered the system I accidently chose the 32 bit Vista home premium not the 64 bit version.  I haven&#8217;t even turned the system on yet but before I do.. should I get the 64 bit home premium or upgrade to the ultimate 64 bit ?<br />
what are the drawbacks to leaving in the 32bit?  will it really not recognize all the ram?<br />
thanks for the help</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I installed Vista ultimate 64 last week and apart from a few problems with flash player not working in firefox (recitified now) I think it&#039;s pretty good. Looks better than XP and with service pack 1 seems to  be very stable. It seems faster than XP professional to me as well. And I only have a modest system. Obviously if you know certain drivers / software aren&#039;t available yet then it&#039;s not for you.

-DS3 Gigabyte mobo
2 gig ram
E6300</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I installed Vista ultimate 64 last week and apart from a few problems with flash player not working in firefox (recitified now) I think it&#8217;s pretty good. Looks better than XP and with service pack 1 seems to  be very stable. It seems faster than XP professional to me as well. And I only have a modest system. Obviously if you know certain drivers / software aren&#8217;t available yet then it&#8217;s not for you.</p>
<p>-DS3 Gigabyte mobo<br />
2 gig ram<br />
E6300</p>
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		<title>By: XFactorXXL</title>
		<link>http://4sysops.com/archives/vista-x64-vs-vista-x86-32-bit-or-64-bit-vista-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-76501</link>
		<dc:creator>XFactorXXL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for the timely responses!  I looked into MagicDisc etc and saw they were in fact x64 compliant, thank you for the info on that as well as the unsigned drivers info .. you put my mind at easy and am planning making the switch this weekend.

Another good thing I found out is after going to the EMU website and researching my Creative E-MU 1212M in the professional equipment pages/daughter website (www.emu.com) I found that they are in fact also fully Vista x64 capable with drivers for download.

If any of you are curious about these cards this is the url for mine...

http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?category=505&amp;subcategory=491&amp;product=9872

The E-MU® 1212M PCI in a nutshell:

-Mastering grade 24-bit/192kHz converters - the same A/D converters used in Digidesign&#039;s flagship ProTools HD 192 I/O Interface delivering an amazing 120dB signal-to-noise ratio

-Comprehensive analog and digital I/O plus MIDI - 12 inputs and 12 outputs, plus MIDI I/O
-Compatibility with most popular audio/sequencer applications - ultra-low latency 24-bit/192kHz ASIO 2.0 and Stereo WDM drivers

-Modular design allows you to customize your system  add a MicroDock to your 1212M for increased analog and digital connectivity and/or connect E-MU&#039;s Sync Daughtercard to your Digital Audio System for SMPTE, Word Clock and MTC sync

-E-MU Production Tools Software Bundle - includes Cakewalk SONAR LE, Steinberg Cubase LE and Wavelab Lite, Ableton Live Lite 4 for E-MU, IK Multimedia AmpliTube LE and T-RackS EQ, Minnetonka diskWelder BRONZE, SFX Machine LT, plus E-MU&#039;s Proteus X LE Desktop Sound Module - everything you need to create, record, edit, master and burn is in the box</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for the timely responses!  I looked into MagicDisc etc and saw they were in fact x64 compliant, thank you for the info on that as well as the unsigned drivers info .. you put my mind at easy and am planning making the switch this weekend.</p>
<p>Another good thing I found out is after going to the EMU website and researching my Creative E-MU 1212M in the professional equipment pages/daughter website (www.emu.com) I found that they are in fact also fully Vista x64 capable with drivers for download.</p>
<p>If any of you are curious about these cards this is the url for mine&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?category=505&amp;subcategory=491&amp;product=9872" rel="nofollow">http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?category=505&amp;subcategory=491&amp;product=9872</a></p>
<p>The E-MU® 1212M PCI in a nutshell:</p>
<p>-Mastering grade 24-bit/192kHz converters &#8211; the same A/D converters used in Digidesign&#8217;s flagship ProTools HD 192 I/O Interface delivering an amazing 120dB signal-to-noise ratio</p>
<p>-Comprehensive analog and digital I/O plus MIDI &#8211; 12 inputs and 12 outputs, plus MIDI I/O<br />
-Compatibility with most popular audio/sequencer applications &#8211; ultra-low latency 24-bit/192kHz ASIO 2.0 and Stereo WDM drivers</p>
<p>-Modular design allows you to customize your system  add a MicroDock to your 1212M for increased analog and digital connectivity and/or connect E-MU&#8217;s Sync Daughtercard to your Digital Audio System for SMPTE, Word Clock and MTC sync</p>
<p>-E-MU Production Tools Software Bundle &#8211; includes Cakewalk SONAR LE, Steinberg Cubase LE and Wavelab Lite, Ableton Live Lite 4 for E-MU, IK Multimedia AmpliTube LE and T-RackS EQ, Minnetonka diskWelder BRONZE, SFX Machine LT, plus E-MU&#8217;s Proteus X LE Desktop Sound Module &#8211; everything you need to create, record, edit, master and burn is in the box</p>
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		<title>By: philips14c</title>
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		<dc:creator>philips14c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@XFactorXXL:
The things with Vista64 are not that bad as people say! I dint had many problems 1 year ago finding drivers and now things are much better!
BTW: MagicDisc/MagicISO works with Vista64, in fact every known disc emulator works with Vista64! And I  also believe that there is a Vista64 driver for your sound card! 

Check this out:

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/04/daniel_k-who-fi.html

&quot;Creative purposely modified the Audigy drivers to disable some features when Vista is detected and also purposely introduced some bugs to prevent some XP utilities from running.&quot;

I guess I will not buy anything from them anytime soon! LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@XFactorXXL:<br />
The things with Vista64 are not that bad as people say! I dint had many problems 1 year ago finding drivers and now things are much better!<br />
BTW: MagicDisc/MagicISO works with Vista64, in fact every known disc emulator works with Vista64! And I  also believe that there is a Vista64 driver for your sound card! </p>
<p>Check this out:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/04/daniel_k-who-fi.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/04/daniel_k-who-fi.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Creative purposely modified the Audigy drivers to disable some features when Vista is detected and also purposely introduced some bugs to prevent some XP utilities from running.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess I will not buy anything from them anytime soon! LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: NipitMaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>NipitMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as unsigned drivers are concerned there are two options. One is to check the website for each program/hardware device you will be using to see if they have signed drivers. (The best option) Your second option (and lesser known) is to enable unsigned drivers at boot time. You can either press F8 each time you boot and select enable unsigned drivers. (not what i would do) or change your boot manager to enable unsigned drivers on its own every time you boot. It entails a few command prompt entries and rolling back a few updates. Here is a guide: http://thebackroomtech.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/howto-disabling-driver-signing-in-windows-vista-64-bit/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as unsigned drivers are concerned there are two options. One is to check the website for each program/hardware device you will be using to see if they have signed drivers. (The best option) Your second option (and lesser known) is to enable unsigned drivers at boot time. You can either press F8 each time you boot and select enable unsigned drivers. (not what i would do) or change your boot manager to enable unsigned drivers on its own every time you boot. It entails a few command prompt entries and rolling back a few updates. Here is a guide: <a href="http://thebackroomtech.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/howto-disabling-driver-signing-in-windows-vista-64-bit/" rel="nofollow">http://thebackroomtech.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/howto-disabling-driver-signing-in-windows-vista-64-bit/</a></p>
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		<title>By: XFactorXXL</title>
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		<dc:creator>XFactorXXL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 08:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all,

I have a couple questions I&#039;m finding hard to get definitive answers to on the Vista Ultimate x86 to the x64 Ed migration.  My question is this:

  I do have a system that I believe to be fully x64 ready (I&#039;ll add a breakdown at the end of the post).  My only concern is what I have been hearing about this &quot;digitally signed driver&quot; issue.  The reason for this is I run gobs of software that has it&#039;s own &quot;unsigned drivers&quot; ie Virtual CD/DVD rom mounting software like MagicDisc/MagicISO as well as some other titles.  Am I still going to have issues running these apps or has this been fixed by Microsoft / software developers since some of the earlier 2007 threads and posts?  
  Second, as a &quot;part-time gamer&quot; and &quot;media encoder/enthusiast&quot;, how significant of a performance increase can I expect by moving to x64?

Any insight or additional information would be greatly appreciated.

Here is a breakdown of the system I currently use (although not the fastest is does the job =P)

Asus M2N-E SLI mobo w/ X2 4200+
   -Cmedia CM6501 onboard audio
2 GB Corsair Dom. 667 DDR2 (willing to upgrade)
2 160 GB WD SATA2&#039;s in raid Array
2 BFG 8600GT OC&#039;s in SLI
2x 500GB SATA2&#039;s for storage (addicted to ripping movies)

here is a questionable hardware piece i run as audio IO for recording studio:
  -Creative EMU 1212M PCI pro sound card

Thanks again and look forward to hearing from you all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all,</p>
<p>I have a couple questions I&#8217;m finding hard to get definitive answers to on the Vista Ultimate x86 to the x64 Ed migration.  My question is this:</p>
<p>  I do have a system that I believe to be fully x64 ready (I&#8217;ll add a breakdown at the end of the post).  My only concern is what I have been hearing about this &#8220;digitally signed driver&#8221; issue.  The reason for this is I run gobs of software that has it&#8217;s own &#8220;unsigned drivers&#8221; ie Virtual CD/DVD rom mounting software like MagicDisc/MagicISO as well as some other titles.  Am I still going to have issues running these apps or has this been fixed by Microsoft / software developers since some of the earlier 2007 threads and posts?<br />
  Second, as a &#8220;part-time gamer&#8221; and &#8220;media encoder/enthusiast&#8221;, how significant of a performance increase can I expect by moving to x64?</p>
<p>Any insight or additional information would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Here is a breakdown of the system I currently use (although not the fastest is does the job =P)</p>
<p>Asus M2N-E SLI mobo w/ X2 4200+<br />
   -Cmedia CM6501 onboard audio<br />
2 GB Corsair Dom. 667 DDR2 (willing to upgrade)<br />
2 160 GB WD SATA2&#8217;s in raid Array<br />
2 BFG 8600GT OC&#8217;s in SLI<br />
2x 500GB SATA2&#8217;s for storage (addicted to ripping movies)</p>
<p>here is a questionable hardware piece i run as audio IO for recording studio:<br />
  -Creative EMU 1212M PCI pro sound card</p>
<p>Thanks again and look forward to hearing from you all!</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Arnav,

I have just upgraded my system and found the Asus P5KC motherboard an excellent choice for the C2Q processor - and it&#039;s also great for overclocking.

It has native 1333MHz support.

This Mobo also supports upto 8Gb DDR-II memory, and up to 4Gb DDR-3 if you wish to upgrade later.

Vista 64 works brilliantly on my system and loads quicker than I have ever seen any OS load.

Specs:
C2Q Q6600 (4x 2.4GHz) - G0 Stepping Version
Asus SilentKnight II cooler
- this is brilliant for OC&#039;ing and is very quiet.
Asus P5KC Mobo
Sapphire ATi Radeon 3650HD x 2 (in X-Fire mode)
4Gb DDR-II 667
Soundgraph iMon Ultrabay II
HP LightScribe DVD-RW
NEC LabelFlash DVD-RW
80Gb Seagate SATA-II hdd (boot drive)
160Gb Seagate SATA-II hdd
400Gb WD SATA-II hdd
500Gb WD SATA-II hdd


Plan is to upgrade memory to low latency stuff and get a raptor in place of the boot drive for the 10k speed. Am a little worried though about the heat these must kick out as the ones I have seen come in a heat sink to fill a 5.25&quot; bay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Arnav,</p>
<p>I have just upgraded my system and found the Asus P5KC motherboard an excellent choice for the C2Q processor &#8211; and it&#8217;s also great for overclocking.</p>
<p>It has native 1333MHz support.</p>
<p>This Mobo also supports upto 8Gb DDR-II memory, and up to 4Gb DDR-3 if you wish to upgrade later.</p>
<p>Vista 64 works brilliantly on my system and loads quicker than I have ever seen any OS load.</p>
<p>Specs:<br />
C2Q Q6600 (4x 2.4GHz) &#8211; G0 Stepping Version<br />
Asus SilentKnight II cooler<br />
- this is brilliant for OC&#8217;ing and is very quiet.<br />
Asus P5KC Mobo<br />
Sapphire ATi Radeon 3650HD x 2 (in X-Fire mode)<br />
4Gb DDR-II 667<br />
Soundgraph iMon Ultrabay II<br />
HP LightScribe DVD-RW<br />
NEC LabelFlash DVD-RW<br />
80Gb Seagate SATA-II hdd (boot drive)<br />
160Gb Seagate SATA-II hdd<br />
400Gb WD SATA-II hdd<br />
500Gb WD SATA-II hdd</p>
<p>Plan is to upgrade memory to low latency stuff and get a raptor in place of the boot drive for the 10k speed. Am a little worried though about the heat these must kick out as the ones I have seen come in a heat sink to fill a 5.25&#8243; bay!</p>
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		<title>By: Arnav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 05:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Vista Ultimate x64 is pretty slow. I have 2x1GB DDR2 667 RAM and Processor C2D 2.2ghz (E4500) L2 Cache 2MB. My graphics card is PCI-E ASUS GeForce EN8500GT which i don;t find that good for games like NFS Pro Street, but I don;t know for Video Editing and other graphics design software. 

I keep checking the usage of RAM, but I see that even at 60% usage the PC takes like 5 seconds sometimes to execute and load a program. Even, when moving from one folder to another, it freezes for few seconds saying &quot;Not Responding&quot;. 

I&#039;m planning to upgrade my system next year to Core 2 Extreme Quad 2.6ghz at least, with at least 4GB DDR2 1066 RAM. I might want to go for DDR3, but I&#039;m now sure whether or not it would be really worthed. I use Photoshop CS3, Dreamweaver alot, and sometimes Edit Videos.

I also, need to know which Mobo would be the best, that supports at least 8GB RAM and FSB 1066/1333.

Well, anyone there to help me with some information?

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Vista Ultimate x64 is pretty slow. I have 2&#215;1GB DDR2 667 RAM and Processor C2D 2.2ghz (E4500) L2 Cache 2MB. My graphics card is PCI-E ASUS GeForce EN8500GT which i don;t find that good for games like NFS Pro Street, but I don;t know for Video Editing and other graphics design software. </p>
<p>I keep checking the usage of RAM, but I see that even at 60% usage the PC takes like 5 seconds sometimes to execute and load a program. Even, when moving from one folder to another, it freezes for few seconds saying &#8220;Not Responding&#8221;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m planning to upgrade my system next year to Core 2 Extreme Quad 2.6ghz at least, with at least 4GB DDR2 1066 RAM. I might want to go for DDR3, but I&#8217;m now sure whether or not it would be really worthed. I use Photoshop CS3, Dreamweaver alot, and sometimes Edit Videos.</p>
<p>I also, need to know which Mobo would be the best, that supports at least 8GB RAM and FSB 1066/1333.</p>
<p>Well, anyone there to help me with some information?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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