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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://4sysops.com/archives/vista-sp1-vs-windows-xp-sp2-file-copy-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-65132</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 18:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read somewhere that someone had been forced to regress their BIOS version which solved the precise problem with the USB keyboards. Dell support couldn&#039;t tell me why the keyboard wouldn&#039;t work, even after a LONG time on the phone and email contact gave them a good chance to. Perhaps they couldn&#039;t admit something. I&#039;m not a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but this is the way Microsoft licensing works, it&#039;s not exactly good capitalism with an open market, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read somewhere that someone had been forced to regress their BIOS version which solved the precise problem with the USB keyboards. Dell support couldn&#8217;t tell me why the keyboard wouldn&#8217;t work, even after a LONG time on the phone and email contact gave them a good chance to. Perhaps they couldn&#8217;t admit something. I&#8217;m not a paranoid conspiracy theorist, but this is the way Microsoft licensing works, it&#8217;s not exactly good capitalism with an open market, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://4sysops.com/archives/vista-sp1-vs-windows-xp-sp2-file-copy-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-64836</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, performance comparisons of an old with a new operating system are never fair. Usually, there are plenty of new functions which slow down the new OS. Vista’s new security features are just one reason why it’s slower than XP.

Ben, what makes you believe that this was planned and what has Microsoft to do with it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, performance comparisons of an old with a new operating system are never fair. Usually, there are plenty of new functions which slow down the new OS. Vista’s new security features are just one reason why it’s slower than XP.</p>
<p>Ben, what makes you believe that this was planned and what has Microsoft to do with it?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://4sysops.com/archives/vista-sp1-vs-windows-xp-sp2-file-copy-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-64594</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comparison is not fair. Vista runs Windows Defender by default but XP does not. Everyone knows that spyware and virus scanners slow down file access and copy operations somewhat. Also it is not clear if the test system used a multi-core CPU, it sounds like it was single core. The comparison would be better using a dual or quad core system, I would expect Vista to be better optimised for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comparison is not fair. Vista runs Windows Defender by default but XP does not. Everyone knows that spyware and virus scanners slow down file access and copy operations somewhat. Also it is not clear if the test system used a multi-core CPU, it sounds like it was single core. The comparison would be better using a dual or quad core system, I would expect Vista to be better optimised for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://4sysops.com/archives/vista-sp1-vs-windows-xp-sp2-file-copy-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-58686</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love someone to explain to me why my aunt&#039;s Dell Dimension 520 has the BIOS modified specially by Dell to dis-allow the USB keyboard to work properly (a planned incompatibility if you like). This prevents Windows XP setup (and my Linux boot disc) from working and forces the user to stick with Vista... Which crashed explorer.exe about 20 times in the first day, fresh from the box without modification of the software. Hmmm. Apparently Dell did this under pressure from Microsoft. If the product is good enough, this kind of B.S. isn&#039;t necessary. Go Figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love someone to explain to me why my aunt&#8217;s Dell Dimension 520 has the BIOS modified specially by Dell to dis-allow the USB keyboard to work properly (a planned incompatibility if you like). This prevents Windows XP setup (and my Linux boot disc) from working and forces the user to stick with Vista&#8230; Which crashed explorer.exe about 20 times in the first day, fresh from the box without modification of the software. Hmmm. Apparently Dell did this under pressure from Microsoft. If the product is good enough, this kind of B.S. isn&#8217;t necessary. Go Figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, Vista runs fine on a 2GB machine. It is just that when we buy new PCs they now always have 4GB. Memory is quite cheap now. If you are sure that XP does everything you need, you certainly should not move to Vista. But did you really check out the new Vista features? Isn&#039;t the extra security important to you? And what about those new deployment features?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, Vista runs fine on a 2GB machine. It is just that when we buy new PCs they now always have 4GB. Memory is quite cheap now. If you are sure that XP does everything you need, you certainly should not move to Vista. But did you really check out the new Vista features? Isn&#8217;t the extra security important to you? And what about those new deployment features?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://4sysops.com/archives/vista-sp1-vs-windows-xp-sp2-file-copy-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-53495</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon Micheal. Just re-visit what you have said here. Microsoft are asking (soon it will be forcing when the drop XP supprt) me to upgrade my organisations OS to Vista. In the process I will need to spends thousands buying new kit, re-training staff, and updating applications. For my efforts I will get slower performance, less stability, less compatibility, and a brand new interface that to 90% of users will seem unintuitive. And you are defending them?!

Think if they were selling a product in any other market - cars, TVs, holidays.... IT needs to join the rest of the sane business world and drop the notion that money doesn&#039;t matter. Your comments re 4GB of RAM clearly illustrate that you speak for yourself only and not for any business or organisation of more than 1. How can you possibly expect any company to regard putting 4GB of RAM in every machine as normal?!

For my company, XP does everything I need it to - and seems to do it relatively well. Please give me a real business reason why I should upgrade. What will I get for my money? As we say - What is the ROI?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Micheal. Just re-visit what you have said here. Microsoft are asking (soon it will be forcing when the drop XP supprt) me to upgrade my organisations OS to Vista. In the process I will need to spends thousands buying new kit, re-training staff, and updating applications. For my efforts I will get slower performance, less stability, less compatibility, and a brand new interface that to 90% of users will seem unintuitive. And you are defending them?!</p>
<p>Think if they were selling a product in any other market &#8211; cars, TVs, holidays&#8230;. IT needs to join the rest of the sane business world and drop the notion that money doesn&#8217;t matter. Your comments re 4GB of RAM clearly illustrate that you speak for yourself only and not for any business or organisation of more than 1. How can you possibly expect any company to regard putting 4GB of RAM in every machine as normal?!</p>
<p>For my company, XP does everything I need it to &#8211; and seems to do it relatively well. Please give me a real business reason why I should upgrade. What will I get for my money? As we say &#8211; What is the ROI?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Victor, thanks. I was thinking that I was bashing MS too hard recently. It seems that is not the case then. And you’re certainly right, Vista is slower than XP. You know what? Windows 7 will be even slower. I absolutely count on that.

JC, I think 4GB is not really high-end anymore. Memory has become quite cheap lately. I don’t know what apps you are running, but I have absolutely no performance problems with Vista. I still have my old XP machine at home. When I bought it, it was absolutely high-end and I think it was only 2 years old when XP came out. This machine is definitely slower than my Vista laptop now which I bought short before Vista came out. All you need is enough RAM and, as Aaron rightly mentioned, to disable Windows Search.

Ronald, nothing to edit ;-)

Andy, I think we still have to wait if Server 2008 will get the same critics as Vista. But bashing a desktop OS brings more page views, so I think it won’t be so bad for Server 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victor, thanks. I was thinking that I was bashing MS too hard recently. It seems that is not the case then. And you’re certainly right, Vista is slower than XP. You know what? Windows 7 will be even slower. I absolutely count on that.</p>
<p>JC, I think 4GB is not really high-end anymore. Memory has become quite cheap lately. I don’t know what apps you are running, but I have absolutely no performance problems with Vista. I still have my old XP machine at home. When I bought it, it was absolutely high-end and I think it was only 2 years old when XP came out. This machine is definitely slower than my Vista laptop now which I bought short before Vista came out. All you need is enough RAM and, as Aaron rightly mentioned, to disable Windows Search.</p>
<p>Ronald, nothing to edit <img src='http://4sysops.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Andy, I think we still have to wait if Server 2008 will get the same critics as Vista. But bashing a desktop OS brings more page views, so I think it won’t be so bad for Server 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: XP v.s Vista - Pagina 10 - DuikForum.nl</title>
		<link>http://4sysops.com/archives/vista-sp1-vs-windows-xp-sp2-file-copy-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-52281</link>
		<dc:creator>XP v.s Vista - Pagina 10 - DuikForum.nl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   Willen jullie nog on-topic? Want dan heb ik een interessant (in het Engels) artikel eventueel. 4sysops - Vista SP1 vs. Windows XP SP2 file copy performance Lees verder voor de uitslagen.    Dat komt door een bug(je) en is niet &quot;standaard&quot; in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   Willen jullie nog on-topic? Want dan heb ik een interessant (in het Engels) artikel eventueel. 4sysops &#8211; Vista SP1 vs. Windows XP SP2 file copy performance Lees verder voor de uitslagen.    Dat komt door een bug(je) en is niet &quot;standaard&quot; in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I&#039;ve read disabling the background search process will improve performance quite a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I&#8217;ve read disabling the background search process will improve performance quite a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://4sysops.com/archives/vista-sp1-vs-windows-xp-sp2-file-copy-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-51978</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that once you set the hardware requirements too high, the companies won&#039;t be upgrading because it would mean to renew 90% of their workstations, which they may or may not have credits to do so.

In organizations having little to do with IT as their business (let&#039;s say a clothes factory), executives sees IT costs as a something they have to pay for employees to work, but they may not want to invest more for little benefits.
IT Managers have to have a great deal of good reasons to tell the executives they want to order new PCs in the organization (in most of the case, the rest of the PC like the CPU or Hard drive is too old as well to run Vista decently, so a simple memory upgrade won&#039;t do).

Now, it is quite unfair to compare 98 with XP since they were different kernels types, but as I said, it is true that reactions were more or less same.
However, with XP, you got huge improvements over 9x : stability is several orders of magnitudes better, you could join it to domains, etc...
Vista has some extra-features (most of these can be obtained through third party program running on XP anyway), but not enough to justify the upgrades for most people.

Now, regarding Windows Server 2008, things are pretty different for a server OS than a client OS.
You rarely work on the server directly, unless it is a terminal server, so the user interface doesn&#039;t bothers as much as on a workstation OS.
It is also easier to justify hardware upgrades on some servers than for lots of clients.
Same with Security : you obviously need even more security on the server than on the clients, so having to solve some either software or hardware incompatibilites is worth the security gain here.

As soon as companies will renew their computer fleets, they will either keep the preinstalled Vista or deploy their own once most of the fleet will meet hardware requirements with dignity, but before, it seems hard to justify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that once you set the hardware requirements too high, the companies won&#8217;t be upgrading because it would mean to renew 90% of their workstations, which they may or may not have credits to do so.</p>
<p>In organizations having little to do with IT as their business (let&#8217;s say a clothes factory), executives sees IT costs as a something they have to pay for employees to work, but they may not want to invest more for little benefits.<br />
IT Managers have to have a great deal of good reasons to tell the executives they want to order new PCs in the organization (in most of the case, the rest of the PC like the CPU or Hard drive is too old as well to run Vista decently, so a simple memory upgrade won&#8217;t do).</p>
<p>Now, it is quite unfair to compare 98 with XP since they were different kernels types, but as I said, it is true that reactions were more or less same.<br />
However, with XP, you got huge improvements over 9x : stability is several orders of magnitudes better, you could join it to domains, etc&#8230;<br />
Vista has some extra-features (most of these can be obtained through third party program running on XP anyway), but not enough to justify the upgrades for most people.</p>
<p>Now, regarding Windows Server 2008, things are pretty different for a server OS than a client OS.<br />
You rarely work on the server directly, unless it is a terminal server, so the user interface doesn&#8217;t bothers as much as on a workstation OS.<br />
It is also easier to justify hardware upgrades on some servers than for lots of clients.<br />
Same with Security : you obviously need even more security on the server than on the clients, so having to solve some either software or hardware incompatibilites is worth the security gain here.</p>
<p>As soon as companies will renew their computer fleets, they will either keep the preinstalled Vista or deploy their own once most of the fleet will meet hardware requirements with dignity, but before, it seems hard to justify.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When XP cames out 7 years ago, all the same BS was told (&quot;it´s a resource hungry&quot;, &quot;the luna interface makes it slower&quot;, &quot;keep with Win 98 because it´s faster&quot;, &quot;blah blah&quot;)... Remember, XP needed a 512mb machine to run relatively good, in a time when 128mb was the default... Come on ppl, move on. Vista is a great OS, much better than XP ever was, and it´s shares the same code Server 2008. It´s funny how Server 2008 never gets all this &quot;critics&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When XP cames out 7 years ago, all the same BS was told (&#8220;it´s a resource hungry&#8221;, &#8220;the luna interface makes it slower&#8221;, &#8220;keep with Win 98 because it´s faster&#8221;, &#8220;blah blah&#8221;)&#8230; Remember, XP needed a 512mb machine to run relatively good, in a time when 128mb was the default&#8230; Come on ppl, move on. Vista is a great OS, much better than XP ever was, and it´s shares the same code Server 2008. It´s funny how Server 2008 never gets all this &#8220;critics&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Barkley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Barkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not as tech savvy as i would like to think but i will give it a shot.  Windows XP requirements calls for 512mbRAM and Windows Vista calls for 1gbRAM.  Running XP on a machine with &lt;7x the memory needed and Vista on a machine with &lt;3x the memory required, to me, seems to be a flawed test. Especially when the numbers show Vista faster at single, less memory draining procedures.  Mike  -edit if not :)- is right on the money when he says the test should be conducted on pc&#039;s with the hardware available at the time of Introduction. The test is obviously skewed in favor of XP. I would drool all over XP as well, if i had almost 4gb of RAM.  I will shortly be drooling all over Vista when i go x64 with 8gb or maybe try for 16gb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not as tech savvy as i would like to think but i will give it a shot.  Windows XP requirements calls for 512mbRAM and Windows Vista calls for 1gbRAM.  Running XP on a machine with &lt;7x the memory needed and Vista on a machine with &lt;3x the memory required, to me, seems to be a flawed test. Especially when the numbers show Vista faster at single, less memory draining procedures.  Mike  -edit if not <img src='http://4sysops.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> - is right on the money when he says the test should be conducted on pc&#8217;s with the hardware available at the time of Introduction. The test is obviously skewed in favor of XP. I would drool all over XP as well, if i had almost 4gb of RAM.  I will shortly be drooling all over Vista when i go x64 with 8gb or maybe try for 16gb.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://4sysops.com/archives/vista-sp1-vs-windows-xp-sp2-file-copy-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-51944</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, while technically you may be right to say that it is not fair to compare a one year old OS with a more than 5 years old one, what people are interested in is sheer performance.

You write this :
&quot;relatively new PC for his benchmark tests: 3.4Ghz, 4GB, 2×250GB.&quot;

4GB of ram is by no mean &quot;relatively new&quot;, it is a high-end PC.
I&#039;m consider myself happy when I go on people&#039;s PCs and see that they have 1GB of ram and the point is that they simply won&#039;t upgrade their PCs just to run Vista...

Also, the problem is that the added features simply do not explain the added overhead in performance which is sometimes massive...
The number and purpose of the new features simply do not justify the added overhead...
While I can be OK with boot time, why do we see so much difference in files copy performance ?

The problem is that customers are not going to buy the &quot;It is OK for it to be slower, because it is brand new and have added features&quot; excuse.
Granted, the same was true with 98 and XP (many users, especially home users, didn&#039;t get through the Win2000 phase), but it was a whole different kernel and the gap in requirements wasn&#039;t as massive as from XP to Vista.

While you are right that better hardware is required for better (I would prefer to say &quot;newer&quot;) software to run, it is something that software use and abuse with the hope of this to cover their occassional sloppy programming.
I think it is clear that today, the focus is not on performance but on features and looks, and who cares how bloated it is becoming : it is why people have the feeling they need to renew their PC to do barely the same thing as before.
If programmers had performance more in mind when writing programs, our PCs would run much faster today than they did in the last years.

Unfortunately, I am not feeling that my PC that I renew almost every year has been much faster than a few years ago in day-to-day tasks and I can&#039;t help but be sad when I realize that the added performance from the new hardware i have been buying has been sucked away from me to make up for software bloat and occasionnal sloppy programming (I&#039;m not only speaking of Vista here but almost any software vendor today).

My view of Vista is that it has wanted to do too much at once : new user-interface (very confusing and breaking years of user-experience and habits, ending up in huge training costs and productivity loss), new security features (while they are certainly good, some seem overkill over the loss of compatibility and it is why most admins think that XP is &quot;secure enough&quot;) and insane hardware requirements compared to what most people or companies are equipped with.
Not saying that things shouldn&#039;t move, but Microsoft tried to do too much at once, resulting in a lot of rejection from its user (worst point for me over all I said is user-interface : it is why I am not planning to deploy it yet in my organization).

I hope Microsoft can get back to its sense with Windows 7... as this service pack doesn&#039;t seem to solving much issues, people may lose any hope for it and simply skip it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, while technically you may be right to say that it is not fair to compare a one year old OS with a more than 5 years old one, what people are interested in is sheer performance.</p>
<p>You write this :<br />
&#8220;relatively new PC for his benchmark tests: 3.4Ghz, 4GB, 2×250GB.&#8221;</p>
<p>4GB of ram is by no mean &#8220;relatively new&#8221;, it is a high-end PC.<br />
I&#8217;m consider myself happy when I go on people&#8217;s PCs and see that they have 1GB of ram and the point is that they simply won&#8217;t upgrade their PCs just to run Vista&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, the problem is that the added features simply do not explain the added overhead in performance which is sometimes massive&#8230;<br />
The number and purpose of the new features simply do not justify the added overhead&#8230;<br />
While I can be OK with boot time, why do we see so much difference in files copy performance ?</p>
<p>The problem is that customers are not going to buy the &#8220;It is OK for it to be slower, because it is brand new and have added features&#8221; excuse.<br />
Granted, the same was true with 98 and XP (many users, especially home users, didn&#8217;t get through the Win2000 phase), but it was a whole different kernel and the gap in requirements wasn&#8217;t as massive as from XP to Vista.</p>
<p>While you are right that better hardware is required for better (I would prefer to say &#8220;newer&#8221;) software to run, it is something that software use and abuse with the hope of this to cover their occassional sloppy programming.<br />
I think it is clear that today, the focus is not on performance but on features and looks, and who cares how bloated it is becoming : it is why people have the feeling they need to renew their PC to do barely the same thing as before.<br />
If programmers had performance more in mind when writing programs, our PCs would run much faster today than they did in the last years.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I am not feeling that my PC that I renew almost every year has been much faster than a few years ago in day-to-day tasks and I can&#8217;t help but be sad when I realize that the added performance from the new hardware i have been buying has been sucked away from me to make up for software bloat and occasionnal sloppy programming (I&#8217;m not only speaking of Vista here but almost any software vendor today).</p>
<p>My view of Vista is that it has wanted to do too much at once : new user-interface (very confusing and breaking years of user-experience and habits, ending up in huge training costs and productivity loss), new security features (while they are certainly good, some seem overkill over the loss of compatibility and it is why most admins think that XP is &#8220;secure enough&#8221;) and insane hardware requirements compared to what most people or companies are equipped with.<br />
Not saying that things shouldn&#8217;t move, but Microsoft tried to do too much at once, resulting in a lot of rejection from its user (worst point for me over all I said is user-interface : it is why I am not planning to deploy it yet in my organization).</p>
<p>I hope Microsoft can get back to its sense with Windows 7&#8230; as this service pack doesn&#8217;t seem to solving much issues, people may lose any hope for it and simply skip it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me Michael, but I think your trying too hard.

It&#039;s ok to defend Vista, but you look like a Microsoft comercial.

And now, face it, Vista is slower, and will ever be. Two years from now, it will be bearable, but now? No thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me Michael, but I think your trying too hard.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ok to defend Vista, but you look like a Microsoft comercial.</p>
<p>And now, face it, Vista is slower, and will ever be. Two years from now, it will be bearable, but now? No thanks.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ITsVISTA Web Links: February 19th &#124; ITsVISTA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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