Comments on: The risks of skipping Windows Vista http://4sysops.com/archives/the-risks-of-skipping-windows-vista/ For Windows Administrators Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:06:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Michael Pietroforte http://4sysops.com/archives/the-risks-of-skipping-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-125185 Michael Pietroforte Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:55:02 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=2459#comment-125185 Simplify PC Solutions, I think many admins find it convenient to trust the Vista bashing articles, so they have a good excuse to skip Vista. James, Vista is not as user friendly as XP? This is easily said. Can you prove it too? Adam, I agree. Windows 7 is Vista SP2. Microsoft just didn't make the system mistake as with Windows XP SP2 which obviously should have been Windows 6.5. Simplify PC Solutions, I think many admins find it convenient to trust the Vista bashing articles, so they have a good excuse to skip Vista.

James, Vista is not as user friendly as XP? This is easily said. Can you prove it too?

Adam, I agree. Windows 7 is Vista SP2. Microsoft just didn’t make the system mistake as with Windows XP SP2 which obviously should have been Windows 6.5.

]]> By: Adam Ruth http://4sysops.com/archives/the-risks-of-skipping-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-125057 Adam Ruth Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:08:29 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=2459#comment-125057 It sounds like it's mostly an issue of timing. I think from a technical standpoint, Windows 7 can be thought of as a refined Vista (not much more than a really big service pack). It seems to me that much of the timing issue is based on the bad timing problems of Vista. Based on what I've been learning about the beta for W7, those timing problems won't affect W7 and the transition from XP to W7 will be no problem for most organisations. It sounds like it’s mostly an issue of timing. I think from a technical standpoint, Windows 7 can be thought of as a refined Vista (not much more than a really big service pack).

It seems to me that much of the timing issue is based on the bad timing problems of Vista. Based on what I’ve been learning about the beta for W7, those timing problems won’t affect W7 and the transition from XP to W7 will be no problem for most organisations.

]]> By: James http://4sysops.com/archives/the-risks-of-skipping-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-124976 James Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:11:43 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=2459#comment-124976 I've been using window 7 for a couple of months now... First on my home PC and currently on my work laptop as well, and I have to say that this beta runs better for me than the released and fully patched vista did. It is the only thing that kept me from downgrading from Vista to XP. While they are right that vista was the first one to come out with all the new security and stuff, it is also bloated, plagued with problems(granted most of the worst ones were fixed with sp1), and generally not as user friendly as XP. Windows 7 is. A couple of examples: I installed Windows 7 on a dual P2 computer with 512mb of ram(very high end once upon a time) and it runs nicely. I tried to install a legacy app that did not work on vista. It didn't work on windows 7 either, but after it failed to install the windows 7 troubleshooter asked me which was the last version of windows it worked on. I answered, and then it gave me a series of command line registry commands to run. Ran them all, and then my app installed perfectly. I’ve been using window 7 for a couple of months now… First on my home PC and currently on my work laptop as well, and I have to say that this beta runs better for me than the released and fully patched vista did. It is the only thing that kept me from downgrading from Vista to XP. While they are right that vista was the first one to come out with all the new security and stuff, it is also bloated, plagued with problems(granted most of the worst ones were fixed with sp1), and generally not as user friendly as XP. Windows 7 is.

A couple of examples:
I installed Windows 7 on a dual P2 computer with 512mb of ram(very high end once upon a time) and it runs nicely.

I tried to install a legacy app that did not work on vista. It didn’t work on windows 7 either, but after it failed to install the windows 7 troubleshooter asked me which was the last version of windows it worked on. I answered, and then it gave me a series of command line registry commands to run. Ran them all, and then my app installed perfectly.

]]> By: Simplify PC Solutions http://4sysops.com/archives/the-risks-of-skipping-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-124674 Simplify PC Solutions Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:39:48 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=2459#comment-124674 Excellent points, all. We've been saying much the same thing for months. Hopefully IT types will do some research into Vista's benefits rather than letting the nonstop bashing continue to influence their decisions... Excellent points, all. We’ve been saying much the same thing for months. Hopefully IT types will do some research into Vista’s benefits rather than letting the nonstop bashing continue to influence their decisions…

]]> By: Michael Pietroforte http://4sysops.com/archives/the-risks-of-skipping-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-124555 Michael Pietroforte Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:33:27 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=2459#comment-124555 Usually SA customers get a longer reprieve. It is just that they are wasting their money if they don't make use of their upgrade right. Usually SA customers get a longer reprieve. It is just that they are wasting their money if they don’t make use of their upgrade right.

]]> By: Chris Lehr http://4sysops.com/archives/the-risks-of-skipping-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-124553 Chris Lehr Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:20:32 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=2459#comment-124553 Also, Anyone who purchased XP in SA's will almost definitely expire before Windows 7 is out. Also, Anyone who purchased XP in SA’s will almost definitely expire before Windows 7 is out.

]]> By: Michael Pietroforte http://4sysops.com/archives/the-risks-of-skipping-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-124514 Michael Pietroforte Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:57:29 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=2459#comment-124514 SLam, I somehow doubt that Windows 7 will be released this year. It seems the beta is not even feature complete. But even if they manage to get it out for Xmas, I would wait for the first SP before I deploy it in a corporate environment. I am not yet sure if I like the Superbar, but I like fish. Unfortunately, this nice feature will probably disappear in the RTM. ;-) SLam, I somehow doubt that Windows 7 will be released this year. It seems the beta is not even feature complete. But even if they manage to get it out for Xmas, I would wait for the first SP before I deploy it in a corporate environment.

I am not yet sure if I like the Superbar, but I like fish. Unfortunately, this nice feature will probably disappear in the RTM. ;-)

]]> By: SLam http://4sysops.com/archives/the-risks-of-skipping-windows-vista/comment-page-1/#comment-124513 SLam Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:28:54 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=2459#comment-124513 Would it really justify the cost to purchase Vista licenses only to eventually upgrade to Windows 7? The RTM date is perhaps the most important factor, if they are able to get it out by this year (which might not be likely), then the Vista skip might be a good idea. But you're correct in the learning curve from XP -> Windows 7. Vista would be a nice stepping block in between. While I like Vista x64, I'm really loving Windows 7. Feels snappier. Would it really justify the cost to purchase Vista licenses only to eventually upgrade to Windows 7? The RTM date is perhaps the most important factor, if they are able to get it out by this year (which might not be likely), then the Vista skip might be a good idea.

But you’re correct in the learning curve from XP -> Windows 7. Vista would be a nice stepping block in between.

While I like Vista x64, I’m really loving Windows 7. Feels snappier.

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