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	<title>Comments on: Private Cloud Computing &#8211; Why this term makes perfect sense</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Pietroforte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Pietroforte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, thanks for the link. I don&#039;t agree with the author of this post though. I think all the characteristics he names are not defining, but just typical features of cloud computing. For example, this consumption-based billing (or &lt;a href=&quot;http://4sysops.com/archives/cloud-computing-starbucks-taxis-and-the-truth-about-pay-as-you-go-pricing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pay-as-you-go pricing&lt;/a&gt; as I call it) is certainly not a defining. We will soon see cloud providers that will offer flat rates. Shall we stop calling it cloud computing just because they changed their pricing model? In my view, location virtualization of guest operating systems is the only feature that is unique to cloud computing and it can&#039;t be replaced by another feature. Therefore, it qualifies as a real defining feature.

Adam, you are right. A hotel that hosts only one person is still a hotel. I just never heard of such a hotel whereas private hotels, i.e. hotels that are not for the public, do certainly exist.

ron, that applies also to other technologies that improve  scalability. The new thing about cloud computing is the way it virtualizes resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, thanks for the link. I don&#8217;t agree with the author of this post though. I think all the characteristics he names are not defining, but just typical features of cloud computing. For example, this consumption-based billing (or <a href="http://4sysops.com/archives/cloud-computing-starbucks-taxis-and-the-truth-about-pay-as-you-go-pricing/" rel="nofollow">pay-as-you-go pricing</a> as I call it) is certainly not a defining. We will soon see cloud providers that will offer flat rates. Shall we stop calling it cloud computing just because they changed their pricing model? In my view, location virtualization of guest operating systems is the only feature that is unique to cloud computing and it can&#8217;t be replaced by another feature. Therefore, it qualifies as a real defining feature.</p>
<p>Adam, you are right. A hotel that hosts only one person is still a hotel. I just never heard of such a hotel whereas private hotels, i.e. hotels that are not for the public, do certainly exist.</p>
<p>ron, that applies also to other technologies that improve  scalability. The new thing about cloud computing is the way it virtualizes resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Location virtualization: verschil tussen hardware virtualization en cloud computing &#171; EarlyBert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Location virtualization: verschil tussen hardware virtualization en cloud computing &#171; EarlyBert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for answering a question I&#039;ve had for a while, in Cloud computing a server image can span multiple hardware servers. 

How much overhead, network/disk/cpu would setting up an in-house cloud to run on unused cycles on the &quot;average&quot; users desktop outside of the data center.  In theory that way you could have a resource available to handle peak loads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for answering a question I&#8217;ve had for a while, in Cloud computing a server image can span multiple hardware servers. </p>
<p>How much overhead, network/disk/cpu would setting up an in-house cloud to run on unused cycles on the &#8220;average&#8221; users desktop outside of the data center.  In theory that way you could have a resource available to handle peak loads.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what&#039;s wrong with the idea of a personal hotel?  Hotels are defined by the services they provide, not to whom they provide them. Even that analogy is in agreement with you, as the &quot;cloud&quot; is defined by what it does, not for whom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what&#8217;s wrong with the idea of a personal hotel?  Hotels are defined by the services they provide, not to whom they provide them. Even that analogy is in agreement with you, as the &#8220;cloud&#8221; is defined by what it does, not for whom.</p>
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		<title>By: John Troyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Troyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the private cloud equivalent of the hotel is the &quot;corporate dormitory&quot; -- on-demand, highly configurable, pay-as-you-go resource for the business. 

I think cloud will end up being about more than location virtualization.  I think it also implies some of these things as well -- from Surgient CTO via Mike D: http://www.mikedipetrillo.com/mikedvirtualization/2009/04/the-five-defining-characteristics-of-cloud-computing.html#more-524</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the private cloud equivalent of the hotel is the &#8220;corporate dormitory&#8221; &#8212; on-demand, highly configurable, pay-as-you-go resource for the business. </p>
<p>I think cloud will end up being about more than location virtualization.  I think it also implies some of these things as well &#8212; from Surgient CTO via Mike D: <a href="http://www.mikedipetrillo.com/mikedvirtualization/2009/04/the-five-defining-characteristics-of-cloud-computing.html#more-524" rel="nofollow">http://www.mikedipetrillo.com/mikedvirtualization/2009/04/the-five-defining-characteristics-of-cloud-computing.html#more-524</a></p>
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