Comments on: How to activate Vista: MAK (Multiple Activation Key) essentials

By: Joe

Joe — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:02:13 +0000

Late comment but yes, a cost of $50 is expensive because it is an annual expense. When you consider that educational has a refresh cycle of 3 or 4 years that makes each license cost $150 – 200. Obviously longer refresh cycles drive the license fee even higher.

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:10:09 +0000

We turned up a KMS server two years ago and it’s been a no brainer. We don’t have to be concerned about tracking and getting a new MAK when we exceed one key’s capacity. As I understand it once you’ve used an activation you don’t get it back if that same system is reimaged. So any domain joined system on our “campus” subets will get an activation. That includes systems coming in via VPN access. The MAK is reserved for those sytems that will be off network for extended periods of time or are not domained joined for justifiable reasons.

By: George

George — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:36:28 +0000

For a K-12 School District?

Yes

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:30:54 +0000

Erich, if you pay $250,000 for 5000 PCs, then one machine costs you $50. You really think that is expensive? How much did you pay for the hardware?

By: Erich

Erich — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:48:42 +0000

I am the Image Master for a large K-12 School District with 5,000 Windows PCs, Laptops & Tables. We are going with MAK due to the ease of activation. I just got off the phone with our software provider and he explained about the KMS activation and how every system imaged has to contact the designated KMS (Key Management System) server to activate. The KMS server itself has to contact Microsoft every 180 days to re-activate itself (as was mentioned above)

With MAK (Multiple Activation Key) system, I can create a master image for a particular model of PC and activate it from Microsoft via the Internet. Then after I create the Master Image file and image the next 200 – 500 computers of the same model, each one will ask to activate Vista over the Internet when you boot into Windows.

This sounds the best for our environment, since (from what I understand) you only have to activate it once and then you are good. As of now we are paying for a “Microsoft Select 3″ agreement and have 1000 MAK licenses. I asked about additional licenses and was told that I just have to call up Microsoft and request more MAK keys. This will not cost any additional money at all since our entire WAN is covered by our agreement
(For only $250,000.00 a year GREEDY BASTAGES!!!)

- Erich

By: Kesava

Kesava — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:47:35 +0000

To activate KMS server for the user,it has to be connected to the net and there should be 25 vista systems connected minimum to a lan with the server to activate its clients.

The clients activated through KMS need to be connected to the local server for periodic check by MS licensing servers. This is very cumbersome and impractical in many scenarios where especially less than 25 exist in unconneced state.

MAK is better and simple. The customer will be very happy. We are going through horrible situation after paying for genuine SW.

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:33:48 +0000

Scott, the number of KMS activations is unlimited. Thus, there is no license pool here. As to MAK activation, you can’t reset your license pool. You have to contact Microsoft if you reached the limit.

By: Scott

Scott — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:52:33 +0000

I still don’t have a good understanding on how a MAK or KMS license is put back into the pool once a computer is retired or reimaged. We do not have KMS installed yet but we have used MAK for our Vista test computers. When I enter our MAK license I see that it checks in with MS and reduces our license pool by one. Can anyone clarify how licenses are added back into the license pool? Thanks

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:55:58 +0000

George,
I think the documentation doesn’t mention it, but a Microsoft representative told us that a KMS host contacts their servers every 180 days.

By: George

George — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:38:01 +0000

Michael, as I understand it, with the KMS system your computers are only communicating with the KMS host which is in the internal network, thus no communication with Redmond. You only need to activate your KMS host once.. hence allowing you to have more control over your VL.

By: Michael

Michael — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:23:25 +0000

Joel, if somebody steals my laptop, the last thing, I would worry about is my Vista license. In my view, it is an advantage for MAK activation that Microsoft has to be connected only once. I am not very comfortable with the idea that I have to ask Redmond every 180 days if I am still allowed to use my desktop computers.

By: Joel

Joel — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:49:32 +0000

I am leaning toward KMS since, as I understand it, MAK is permanent to the machine it is installed on, Say your laptop is stolen, with it goes your Vista license. With KMS, that key will be invalid after 180 days or so since it will not be able to contact the KMS host.

Again this is just how I understand it, and I may be way off.