Comments on: FREE: Detect Intel and AMD Hyper-V compatibility http://4sysops.com/archives/free-detect-intel-and-amd-hyper-v-compatibility/ For Windows Administrators Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:46:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Sebastian T http://4sysops.com/archives/free-detect-intel-and-amd-hyper-v-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-128210 Sebastian T Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:05:14 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=1414#comment-128210 You mentioned in your article that Hyper-V can be installed on a system without a CPU enabled with Hardware Virtualisation, can you give me any tips or point me to a guide where it outlines this process. You mentioned in your article that Hyper-V can be installed on a system without a CPU enabled with Hardware Virtualisation, can you give me any tips or point me to a guide where it outlines this process.

]]> By: Michael http://4sysops.com/archives/free-detect-intel-and-amd-hyper-v-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-115366 Michael Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:45:23 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=1414#comment-115366 I had the same problem with an HP machine. I think it is not a processor problem. Their desktop BIOS doesn't support it. I hope they will release a new BIOS soon. I had the same problem with an HP machine. I think it is not a processor problem. Their desktop BIOS doesn’t support it. I hope they will release a new BIOS soon.

]]> By: Jamie http://4sysops.com/archives/free-detect-intel-and-amd-hyper-v-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-114785 Jamie Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:17:20 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=1414#comment-114785 Silly tools. There are no such options in the BIOS setup on my 6715b. HP support has also confirmed that this PC can't use Hyper-V - something about the processor supporting it, but that the laptop was built with a kind of socket that doesn't allow for it. A 6710b with an Athlon processor will work, and apparently it's true: http://community.sgdotnet.org/blogs/microlau/archive/2008/10/14/isolating-slowness-on-my-hp-compaq-6510b.aspx I still think it's just the lack of BIOS support. In any case, I've given up for now. Got a Dell e6400 to play with the other day (centrino2) and wow what a difference in BIOS menus!!! There were all kinds of virtualisation goodies to turn on, and I got Hyper-V to work on that system without a hitch. Too bad I have to give it back soon... Silly tools.

There are no such options in the BIOS setup on my 6715b. HP support has also confirmed that this PC can’t use Hyper-V – something about the processor supporting it, but that the laptop was built with a kind of socket that doesn’t allow for it. A 6710b with an Athlon processor will work, and apparently it’s true:

http://community.sgdotnet.org/blogs/microlau/archive/2008/10/14/isolating-slowness-on-my-hp-compaq-6510b.aspx

I still think it’s just the lack of BIOS support. In any case, I’ve given up for now.

Got a Dell e6400 to play with the other day (centrino2) and wow what a difference in BIOS menus!!! There were all kinds of virtualisation goodies to turn on, and I got Hyper-V to work on that system without a hitch. Too bad I have to give it back soon…

]]> By: Michael http://4sysops.com/archives/free-detect-intel-and-amd-hyper-v-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-114471 Michael Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:48:49 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=1414#comment-114471 Jamie, I suppose one of the tools didn’t work correctly. As far as I know, it is only possible to enable virtualization support via the BIOS setup. Jamie, I suppose one of the tools didn’t work correctly. As far as I know, it is only possible to enable virtualization support via the BIOS setup.

]]> By: jamie http://4sysops.com/archives/free-detect-intel-and-amd-hyper-v-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-113468 jamie Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:22:42 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=1414#comment-113468 An interesting follow-up. After I gave up on Hyper-V, I installed MS Virtual PC so I could get on with my work. I noticed that it was using the Hardware Virtualization support that my computer provided (as it did under XP), and got annoyed that MSVPC seemed to enjoy my cpu, while Hyper-V didn't. Just for kicks, I decided to run the AMD CPUInfo tool again. What did I find? Secure virtualization Mode was suddenly enabled! I quit MSVPC and CPUInfo, started CPUInfo again, and it showed that Secure Virtualization Mode was not enabled. Started up MSVPC again, yup it was enabled again. Is this just another case of the tools showing incorrect information, or is it actually possible to enable NX (Secure Virtualization Mode) from inside windows?? Why won't Hyper-V do this? -Jamie An interesting follow-up.

After I gave up on Hyper-V, I installed MS Virtual PC so I could get on with my work. I noticed that it was using the Hardware Virtualization support that my computer provided (as it did under XP), and got annoyed that MSVPC seemed to enjoy my cpu, while Hyper-V didn’t.

Just for kicks, I decided to run the AMD CPUInfo tool again. What did I find? Secure virtualization Mode was suddenly enabled! I quit MSVPC and CPUInfo, started CPUInfo again, and it showed that Secure Virtualization Mode was not enabled. Started up MSVPC again, yup it was enabled again.

Is this just another case of the tools showing incorrect information, or is it actually possible to enable NX (Secure Virtualization Mode) from inside windows?? Why won’t Hyper-V do this?

-Jamie

]]> By: Jamie http://4sysops.com/archives/free-detect-intel-and-amd-hyper-v-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-112631 Jamie Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:44:49 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=1414#comment-112631 I recently installed Windows 2008 64-bit on my HP6715b laptop (Turion 64 X2 mobile TL-56) hoping to get to know Win2008 and to play with Hyper-V. The HyperVisor services wouldn't start, as my processor didn't support it. The AMD CPU check said that my processor *did* support Hyper-V, but that a BIOS update was needed [to enable it]. Updating the BIOS didn't help - the menus in it are so simplified, giving no access to such fancy things as CPU options, let alone enable secure virtualization. Now I'm even more disappointed after having run the AMD CPUInfo tool, which shows clearly that my processor supports it, but that the function is not enabled. At the end of the day I guess I should be satisfied with having such a fantastic OS on my computer (Win2008 rocks on a laptop!!!) but having Hyper-V would be the icing on the cake. Is there any way to turn on this CPU virtualization mode other than through the BIOS setup menus? -Jamie I recently installed Windows 2008 64-bit on my HP6715b laptop (Turion 64 X2 mobile TL-56) hoping to get to know Win2008 and to play with Hyper-V.

The HyperVisor services wouldn’t start, as my processor didn’t support it. The AMD CPU check said that my processor *did* support Hyper-V, but that a BIOS update was needed [to enable it]. Updating the BIOS didn’t help – the menus in it are so simplified, giving no access to such fancy things as CPU options, let alone enable secure virtualization.

Now I’m even more disappointed after having run the AMD CPUInfo tool, which shows clearly that my processor supports it, but that the function is not enabled.

At the end of the day I guess I should be satisfied with having such a fantastic OS on my computer (Win2008 rocks on a laptop!!!) but having Hyper-V would be the icing on the cake.

Is there any way to turn on this CPU virtualization mode other than through the BIOS setup menus?

-Jamie

]]> By: Michael http://4sysops.com/archives/free-detect-intel-and-amd-hyper-v-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-104583 Michael Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:30:57 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=1414#comment-104583 I made the same findings as you. These tools are indeed not very reliable. I made the same findings as you. These tools are indeed not very reliable.

]]> By: Bob Romney http://4sysops.com/archives/free-detect-intel-and-amd-hyper-v-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-103511 Bob Romney Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:35:03 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=1414#comment-103511 You know, it's funny, earlier this year I built a new machine specifically to play with virtualization and Hyper-V in particular. Not knowing all the nuances of virtualization terminolgy I happily purchased an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5400 processor, dropped it into a PCCHIPS A13G+ mobo (not somethig I would do again) and installed the recently RTM'd Windows Server 2008 with the Hyper-V update. Away I went into the virtualized world and after a little fiddling with Virtualization Manager, I had all the VMs I could handle. Later, I learned about the utilities to detect and test processors for their ability to support hardware virtualization. Lo and behold all the detection utilities I ran told me I was not running AMD-V and that the processor did not support virtualzation. So I flashed an updated BIOS but still no joy. The AMD Microsoft Compatibility Checker says "system is not compatible with Hyper-V" and CPU-Z and CrystalCPUID both fail to detect AMD-V. And yet Hyper-V seems to be running just fine, thank you. My conclusion is that either the requirements are wrong or the detection utilities are unreliable. What are other people finding? Bob Romney You know, it’s funny, earlier this year I built a new machine specifically to play with virtualization and Hyper-V in particular. Not knowing all the nuances of virtualization terminolgy I happily purchased an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5400 processor, dropped it into a PCCHIPS A13G+ mobo (not somethig I would do again) and installed the recently RTM’d Windows Server 2008 with the Hyper-V update. Away I went into the virtualized world and after a little fiddling with Virtualization Manager, I had all the VMs I could handle.

Later, I learned about the utilities to detect and test processors for their ability to support hardware virtualization. Lo and behold all the detection utilities I ran told me I was not running AMD-V and that the processor did not support virtualzation. So I flashed an updated BIOS but still no joy.

The AMD Microsoft Compatibility Checker says “system is not compatible with Hyper-V” and CPU-Z and CrystalCPUID both fail to detect AMD-V. And yet Hyper-V seems to be running just fine, thank you.

My conclusion is that either the requirements are wrong or the detection utilities are unreliable. What are other people finding?

Bob Romney

]]> By: markwilson.it » Useful Hyper-V links http://4sysops.com/archives/free-detect-intel-and-amd-hyper-v-compatibility/comment-page-1/#comment-84541 markwilson.it » Useful Hyper-V links Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:36:50 +0000 http://4sysops.com/?p=1414#comment-84541 [...] Earlier this year, John Howard wrote about how to turn on hardware assisted virtualisation but Michael Pietroforte has written about free tools from AMD and Intel which allow administrators to ch.... [...] [...] Earlier this year, John Howard wrote about how to turn on hardware assisted virtualisation but Michael Pietroforte has written about free tools from AMD and Intel which allow administrators to ch…. [...]

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