Comments on: A great overview of Hyper-V, the virtualization solution in Windows Server 2008 http://4sysops.com/archives/a-great-overview-of-hyper-v-the-virtualization-solution-in-windows-server-2008/ For Windows Administrators Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:02:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Michael http://4sysops.com/archives/a-great-overview-of-hyper-v-the-virtualization-solution-in-windows-server-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-58769 Michael Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:08:33 +0000 http://4sysops.com/archives/a-great-overview-of-hyper-v-the-virtualization-solution-in-windows-server-2008/#comment-58769 Ben, I wouldn’t worry about VMware’s product support at the moment. They are still the market leader and it will take quite some time until Microsoft becomes a real threat to them. Ben, I wouldn’t worry about VMware’s product support at the moment. They are still the market leader and it will take quite some time until Microsoft becomes a real threat to them.

]]> By: Ben Farr http://4sysops.com/archives/a-great-overview-of-hyper-v-the-virtualization-solution-in-windows-server-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-58042 Ben Farr Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:07:59 +0000 http://4sysops.com/archives/a-great-overview-of-hyper-v-the-virtualization-solution-in-windows-server-2008/#comment-58042 VMware might be in some serious trouble. What does all this mean for their product support? VMware might be in some serious trouble. What does all this mean for their product support?

]]> By: Michael http://4sysops.com/archives/a-great-overview-of-hyper-v-the-virtualization-solution-in-windows-server-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-57084 Michael Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:44:00 +0000 http://4sysops.com/archives/a-great-overview-of-hyper-v-the-virtualization-solution-in-windows-server-2008/#comment-57084 Dave, I don’t think that Microsoft’s marketing is dangerous for VMware. Actually, in my opinion, Microsoft’s marketing is one of the weakest in the software industry. It is their money that VMware has to fear. At the moment, VMware is technologically far more advanced. But if Microsoft claims the leadership in this market, only governments can stop them. VMware is not Google. If they are lucky they will have a similar role as Citrix has today. When Microsoft decided to enter the market for terminal server solutions, the good times were over for Citrix. They came to an arrangement with Microsoft which allowed them to survive. Hopefully, VMware will do the same. Jeffrey, to embed the hypervisor in hardware was certainly a smart move. But you probably know that Microsoft has the same plans. I think in the future, the hypervisor will only play a minor role, anyway. The quality of the management tools will decide who rules the virtualization market. Dave, I don’t think that Microsoft’s marketing is dangerous for VMware. Actually, in my opinion, Microsoft’s marketing is one of the weakest in the software industry. It is their money that VMware has to fear. At the moment, VMware is technologically far more advanced. But if Microsoft claims the leadership in this market, only governments can stop them. VMware is not Google. If they are lucky they will have a similar role as Citrix has today. When Microsoft decided to enter the market for terminal server solutions, the good times were over for Citrix. They came to an arrangement with Microsoft which allowed them to survive. Hopefully, VMware will do the same.

Jeffrey, to embed the hypervisor in hardware was certainly a smart move. But you probably know that Microsoft has the same plans. I think in the future, the hypervisor will only play a minor role, anyway. The quality of the management tools will decide who rules the virtualization market.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://4sysops.com/archives/a-great-overview-of-hyper-v-the-virtualization-solution-in-windows-server-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-57070 Jeffrey Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:18:56 +0000 http://4sysops.com/archives/a-great-overview-of-hyper-v-the-virtualization-solution-in-windows-server-2008/#comment-57070 VMware ESX server pricing is much more competitive since December when they released 3.5 and their acceleration packs. The cost is much more easily recovered in server consolidation projects, even in a smaller business. The older prices made it more difficult to get immediate ROI, but that does not appear to be the case anymore. VMware has also announced plans to embed an ESX hypervisor in Dell, Fujitsu-Siemens, HP and IBM servers. So that server you buy is going to already have the potential to run VMs out of the box - before even installing Windows. It was a smart move for them to get those agreements made, as it slips them in under even Microsoft's attempt to get admins to use the MS hypervisor. @Dave I'm not sure why I want USB support for my guests on an ESX box. My ESX box lives in the server room, I rarely even see the box - much less be around for plugging USB devices in. What use case am I overlooking? VMware ESX server pricing is much more competitive since December when they released 3.5 and their acceleration packs. The cost is much more easily recovered in server consolidation projects, even in a smaller business. The older prices made it more difficult to get immediate ROI, but that does not appear to be the case anymore.

VMware has also announced plans to embed an ESX hypervisor in Dell, Fujitsu-Siemens, HP and IBM servers. So that server you buy is going to already have the potential to run VMs out of the box – before even installing Windows. It was a smart move for them to get those agreements made, as it slips them in under even Microsoft’s attempt to get admins to use the MS hypervisor.

@Dave
I’m not sure why I want USB support for my guests on an ESX box. My ESX box lives in the server room, I rarely even see the box – much less be around for plugging USB devices in. What use case am I overlooking?

]]> By: Dave http://4sysops.com/archives/a-great-overview-of-hyper-v-the-virtualization-solution-in-windows-server-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-57008 Dave Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:45:25 +0000 http://4sysops.com/archives/a-great-overview-of-hyper-v-the-virtualization-solution-in-windows-server-2008/#comment-57008 I agree that hard times are ahead for VMWare. Microsoft looks to be forming an alliance with every hypervisor maker except VMWare. Maybe if they step it up and bump up that capabilities (like USB support in ESX - it's there in the free version but not the $1000 version....good thinking) they'll be okay. I think they can defiantly compete with Microsoft on capabilities, but the real question is can they compete with the Microsoft marketing machine and can they compete on pricing? I agree that hard times are ahead for VMWare. Microsoft looks to be forming an alliance with every hypervisor maker except VMWare. Maybe if they step it up and bump up that capabilities (like USB support in ESX – it’s there in the free version but not the $1000 version….good thinking) they’ll be okay.

I think they can defiantly compete with Microsoft on capabilities, but the real question is can they compete with the Microsoft marketing machine and can they compete on pricing?

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